memnosine

asked May 6, 2006 at 9:01pm
Hp HP LaserJet IIIP+

HP IIIP paper accordion and skew

Hi:

My hp IIIP did have a cracked clutch; replaced it with your kit KO7. It did not cure my paper crunching problem. Using the manual feed only, the paper feeds very nicely for about 3 and 1/8 inches, then starts scrunching up and pulling to the right before it jams. Is this a pick up problem or an output problem? There's very seldon any toner on the paper, just a couple of inches of accordion folds and several inches of fan folds on the left side of the paper. Ive seen a similar problem in the forums, but it stopped before any answers were reported.
http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/laser/2822#1
Any suggestions?
The K07 kit should have addressed that problem. Lets try a simple test. Lift the shutter in front of the cartridge drum. On the very right edge of the drum, make a mark using a magic marker. Close the door and let the printer run. Open it back up and see if the mark on the drum has moved. Report back.
by moe on May 6, 2006 at 9:49pm Add comment
umm. The mark didn't move, nor did it on a second cartridge. The inner gear, the largest one, on the new clutch assembly does spin until the paper stops and the paper jam error shows up. I could rotate the cartridge drum with my thumb on its gear, albeit with difficulty.
by memnosine on May 7, 2006 at 6:28pm Add comment
I suspect when you put it back together, you got the green lever out of position. When you close the door, the green lever gets pushed in and releases the gears. That is why the drum is not turning. The lever should be mounted in a position closest to the body of the printer. If it is popped out away from the printer it won't disengage when you close the front of the printer.
by moe on May 7, 2006 at 8:49pm Add comment
Moe, you called the right problem; the little green wand -brake engagement/door open sensor?- was not depressing completely, because the case was not solid with the side and rear panels off. I could see a gap of possibly 1/8th inch between the top and the closed front access door. Pushing on the top right of that door moved the little green wand clear of the outer clutch gear, everything rotated and the machine works. Screwing it all back together got things solid, the door closes tightly, and I'm printing again. Thanks for the parts and the handholding.

Now on to the HP IIIs... but that's another thread.
by memnosine on May 9, 2006 at 8:08am Add comment
With the accordion repair kit, I was able to fix the problem of an accordion forming at the bottom of the page (which only occurred when the paper was sent to the top of the printer - not when the paper was directed out of the front) - but the new problem is that the paper jams while coming out of the top. The page is actually printed, but it does not fully exit the printer (about 3-4 inches remains in the printer). I can pull the paper out easily (i.e., there's no resistance), but error 13 paper jam appears and the printer will not print another page. I'd like to know what I can do to have the paper exit the top completely. Thank you.
by unknown on Mar 8, 2007 at 7:23pm Add comment
Did you read the instructions where it tells you to adjust the tension on the idler rollers beneath the foam ones? Try 1/4 turn counter-clockwise at a time. Usually the first turn works.
by moe on Mar 8, 2007 at 10:06pm Add comment